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@mablue mablue commented Sep 1, 2021

We need it to determin there is a user that uses orginal telegram or its just an spy cam inside our group.
now in iran many other telegram versions generated that we dont know is this for just improving usablity or any other porpuse so we will know which user uses the orginal telegram and which not. I think it will not work without md5 or signiture checkes and also we need a server change to get that like data but we need to give admins this option to understand whats the users telegram version and pakage name to block spywares from his groups if them want cuz its a big security problem for other users as well
people using this spywares and ....

We need it to determin there is a user that uses orginal telegram or its just a spy cam inside our group
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This is COMPLETELY useless, as anyone can replace that value

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mablue commented Sep 1, 2021

This is COMPLETELY useless, as anyone can replace that value

yes can you help me how can I start working on it?

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ctwoon commented Sep 1, 2021

@mablue you can't. there is no way to do that.

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mablue commented Sep 1, 2021

@mablue you can't. there is no way to do that.

but if an algo...errrm how api servers cheking that requests comming from right application?


ops I think yes we cant do anything about it thanks :)

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ctwoon commented Sep 2, 2021

@mablue they're checking api hash.

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mablue commented Sep 2, 2021

@mablue they're checking api hash.

thanks than I think we cant get this hash without changing telegram api server yes?

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We need it to determin there is a user that uses orginal telegram or its just an spy cam inside our group. now in iran many other telegram versions generated that we dont know is this for just improving usablity or any other porpuse so we will know which user uses the orginal telegram and which not. I think it will not work without md5 or signiture checkes and also we need a server change to get that like data but we need to give admins this option to understand whats the users telegram version and pakage name to block spywares from his groups if them want cuz its a big security problem for other users as well people using this spywares and ....

Who forbidding me to launch telegram in browser, and use something like selenium to get data from any chat when I am, or send messages to anybody, who i need?

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mablue commented Nov 5, 2021

We need it to determin there is a user that uses orginal telegram or its just an spy cam inside our group. now in iran many other telegram versions generated that we dont know is this for just improving usablity or any other porpuse so we will know which user uses the orginal telegram and which not. I think it will not work without md5 or signiture checkes and also we need a server change to get that like data but we need to give admins this option to understand whats the users telegram version and pakage name to block spywares from his groups if them want cuz its a big security problem for other users as well people using this spywares and ....

Who forbidding me to launch telegram in browser, and use something like selenium to get data from any chat when I am, or send messages to anybody, who i need?

Your own conscience, honor and humanity

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@mablue they're checking api hash.

TG check api key/hash, package and fingerprint. All these values are easy to change:

  • use vanilla api
  • hardcode package
  • hardcode vanille fingerprint
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We need it to determin there is a user that uses orginal telegram or its just an spy cam inside our group. now in iran many other telegram versions generated that we dont know is this for just improving usablity or any other porpuse so we will know which user uses the orginal telegram and which not. I think it will not work without md5 or signiture checkes and also we need a server change to get that like data but we need to give admins this option to understand whats the users telegram version and pakage name to block spywares from his groups if them want cuz its a big security problem for other users as well people using this spywares and ....

Who forbidding me to launch telegram in browser, and use something like selenium to get data from any chat when I am, or send messages to anybody, who i need?

Your own conscience, honor and humanity

Lol

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mablue commented Feb 21, 2022

I think Im really Clear .
to be honest we should know who use orginal telegram and who not. yes of course someone can make a magic and Deceive us but when a channel admin knows that who is in an orginal client and who is not its a very huge inovation and option in security of humans... you know people die in my country just cuz of this shit:
some one make an spyer version beautiful cute pink style telegram that have a proxy on it in default and just share it with people(ships) that can't reach normally to telegram without a vpn or proxy on his country than just hunt the people who speaking in groups that these people joint with a keywords list.thats it easy work..thanks
my request is not a very difficult update I need help for my people for humanity.
it will difficult maybe updating the server or etc and it will hard to catch the hackers but we can catch normal people that using not orginal telegrams.

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I think Im really Clear . to be honest we should know who use orginal telegram and who not. yes of course someone can make a magic and Deceive us but when a channel admin knows that who is in an orginal client and who is not its a very huge inovation and option in security of humans... you know people die in my country just cuz of this shit: some one make an spy cam and join to a big group and than just he/she/it use an AI to check what people speaking and who is it...thanks

people die? well, just disable all invitation links, thats all. Don't use telegram, use another clients which doesn't have an account linked to phone number. Seriosly. You want secure shit stuff from commercial messenger, LOL.
So, change your technology stack to match better the reality and avoid losses.

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mablue commented Feb 21, 2022

@nikitasius you know the problem is that shit:
some buddy just share a spyware as a cute pink style proxy armord telegram and can control all the groups and get data from all this groups when people uses this spyweres...just one user in a supergroup can make a big data food for makers but makers cant come and them dont know where is exacly this group to come with his foots.them just share a spywere as a supertelegram and wait and Hunt people

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mablue commented Feb 21, 2022

we should have a way to control this thing. we will say to the users there is a user with a not updated telegram and or costume client and the user will know that will not speak what he want in this group freely its easy man its will not hard to tag users with a red dot...

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